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  <title>career advice - ENFP Personalities - tribe.net</title>
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    <title>Re: career advice</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Aaron</name>
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    <id>http://enfp.tribe.net/thread/2acf4010-8ad7-4535-a5b5-370169f8b478#0fd921b6-f1c5-40a8-b274-c60480b7ad86</id>
    <updated>2009-08-26T02:54:21Z</updated>
    <published>2009-08-26T02:54:21Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Although I have zero experience in the med field, I do have insights for the sciences as an ENFP...&#xD;
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Im finishing up my M.S. in engineering technology with a concentration in aquatic conservation. Got a strong background in &#xD;
wildlife, geology, hydo, forestry, etc so applying creative engineering concepts to "save the planet with cool gadgets" is a plus.&#xD;
However, the job outlook for mapping fish habitat does not look promising. So, I turn to GIS (geographic information systems) and the job&#xD;
outlook for this looks attractive and allows me to be creative in making maps. Science has tended to get dry over the years and GIS has allowed my creative ideas to blossom...&#xD;
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I have found that something is missing though. I dont really interact with people that much and  I dont find "deeper" meaning in my job as a &#xD;
cartographer. Right now, I stick to hobbies to fill that void, but need to reach out to the community or maybe become a career counselor down the line...</summary>
    <dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-08-26T02:54:21Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Re: career advice</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Paul</name>
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    <updated>2009-08-18T23:39:52Z</updated>
    <published>2009-08-18T23:39:52Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Marshall, I've just started my last year at Med school and I can relate...here's my story and hopefully some insights:&#xD;
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I started my career as an electrical engineer, and now I'm a medical student. I always loved maths and sciences and saw engineering as the most creative scientific profession I could find. That lasted about 2 years after university when I transitioned to product marketing of the same components that I had designed as an engineer. It's a great feeling to come up with marketing and sales ideas for products that you actually invented. But, that dreaded ENFP intrinsic need for 'deeper meaning' was missing from work and I felt that selling more computer products to customer X, Y, and Z wasn't going to work for me in 20 years. So I made a leap and applied to medical school. I'm just finishing now, and in true ENFP fashion I'm looking at the more relationship-heavy specialties such as family medicine and psychiatry. &#xD;
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I find that Psychiatry is especially creative in how your ENFP personal style can increase therapeutic alliances and how ENFP interviewing skills change patient outcomes.  I can't think of any other field of medicine in which ENFP interpersonal strengths/curiosity can directly impact other people's lives (in terms of how patients ultimately perceive and interact with the world).  I found that ENFP strengths in most specialties are limited to improving the history taking experience for the patient, but in psychiatry diagnostic and treatment issues such as the MSE, therapeutic alliance, and psychotherapy are natural ENFP domains.  &#xD;
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Which specialties have you looked at?  Prior to psych, I was looking at med onc, rad onc, and general IM.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-08-18T23:39:52Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: career advice</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Frank</name>
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    <updated>2009-08-15T18:07:43Z</updated>
    <published>2009-08-15T18:07:43Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Marshal,&#xD;
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Before I went to law school, I used to be a stock broker.  When the market would drop, my clients would call me and always ask me the same question:  "Should I sell my stock?"  My reply was always the same.  You don't buy or sell stock because it's up or down.  You invest in stock because of certain reasons, reasons which led you to believe it was a good investment.  If the reasons you invested in the stock are still true, don't sell.  If you believe in a stock, you buy more when the price drops, not less.  If, however, those reasons are no longer true or you learn of new information which you hadn't considered before, perhaps you should sell.  Much is the same with careers. &#xD;
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When I attended law school, I did so for a simple reason:  I wanted to help people.  Once I got there, I questioned my decision.  I wasn't a huge fan of reading and I was even less fond of my classmates.  In addition, job prospects were horrible and there were constant reminders that there were "just too many lawyers."  However, my reason had not changed.  I still wanted to help people.  For that reason, I stuck it out and have never regretted the decision.&#xD;
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The only time I ever regret being a lawyer is when I stray from that original reason.  For example, whenever I have followed money or a promotion, I have excelled professionally but been miserable personally.  My career choice always has to be consistent with my values.&#xD;
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That said, it is extremely important that you remain open to anything.  For example, when I first starting working as a lawyer, our law firm represented what I considered to be a "slum lord."  At first, I hated my job.  Then, after awhile, I realized that I could use my "legal advice" to curb the bad behavior of this landlord and to help his tenants.  Although I would have liked him to change his behavior because it was morally despicable, I found solace in the fact he changed because I had advised him that not changing his ways was a violation of the law and would likely cost him more money in the long run.  In short, I was able "to do good" even working for a slum lord.&#xD;
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Some reading this will think I simply want to rationalize my decision, but the true is, someone was going to represent this landlord, someone who might not have shared my morals.  The point is, there will be times when you need to make the best of an undesirable situation, until a better one comes along. I now represent young people who have run-ins with the law or who have been expelled from school. They are hardly saints.  However, they are still kids and for the most part, are the biproducts are delporable upbringings. I simply do my best to undue the bad cards these young people have already been dealt.&#xD;
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Best of luck in your decision!  Just remember, no career decision is etched in stone and no experience is without value!</summary>
    <dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-08-15T18:07:43Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Re: career advice</title>
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    <author>
      <name>marisa</name>
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    <updated>2009-08-15T15:58:51Z</updated>
    <published>2009-08-15T15:58:51Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Hi Marshal&#xD;
I'm an older and wiser ENFP. Please stick with it, you will be so unhappy if you don't complete this area of your life!! Only one more year to go!! Stay with people who will encourage you while your going through these doubts. Believe me there is so many avenues you could go with in the medical field. I went to a ENFP career choices website, and the best peice of advice that was given for your field was a traveling nurse or doctor!! That sounds pretty exciting to me, get paid well and do something that is giving back to the world, and get to change locations frequently so you don't get bored!! WOW, wish I had that chance!! Stick with it Marshall!!</summary>
    <dc:creator>marisa</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-08-15T15:58:51Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Re: career advice</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Greg</name>
    </author>
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    <updated>2009-07-23T03:29:20Z</updated>
    <published>2009-07-23T03:29:20Z</published>
    <summary type="html">If I'd ever had the patience to complete a med degree I would've loved to.  Be proud you have it.  I can see some things being stressful in medicine, but there are lots of ways you can use it.  Model yourself on Doctor Zhivago or something :).  You don't need to be a GP or hospital worker.  You can do doctors without borders, and many other things.  Medicine gives you the ability to directly help and save people, turn around lives.  As an ENFP I'm jealous.  Just find somewhere where you aren't restricted, as I said doctors without borders, or work in troubled communities, and those sorts of things would be good.  Where you could treat and also counsel and also visualise change and improvement.  I'm not the bleeding heart charitable type, but I know we find something fulfilling in this stuff when it is done for the right reasons.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-07-23T03:29:20Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: career advice</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Cari</name>
    </author>
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    <updated>2009-07-10T20:45:31Z</updated>
    <published>2009-07-10T20:45:31Z</published>
    <summary type="html">If you went into plastic surgery you could help so many unfortunate children born with facial deformities.  You could travel the world while volunteering for an incredible organization, Operation Smile.   Check them out.  I know first-hand that the work they do is amazing! I went to Egypt with them.  This way you get to satisfy the ENFP spirit of travel/adventure/meeting new people/seeing new places combined with helping people.  Win-win!  Also, every face is different so it wouldn't be as boring as treating people with certain viruses/diseases, which are ultimately the same in everyone (sometimes).  You could do pro-bono work in the states for people that can't afford it.  You could help burn victims and those who have been in car accidents, etc, gain their lives back.  What a great feeling that would be.  I wish I had the stomach to deal with blood. If I did, I would definitely test myself to see if I could feat med school.  As a doctor, you are always in demand, you are always helping people and you can do it anywhere in the world!  Plus, you will make great money so you can have the resources to pick up new hobbies or travel.  Be greatful.  You have a future full of great opportunites!</summary>
    <dc:creator>Cari</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-07-10T20:45:31Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Re: career advice</title>
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    <author>
      <name>dreamer</name>
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    <updated>2009-07-07T06:38:35Z</updated>
    <published>2009-07-07T06:38:35Z</published>
    <summary type="html">bravo, a ENFP doctor in training.. Yeah&#xD;
 did you know ENFP is very good with people. &#xD;
Counselling  field would be something to consider. talk Therapy related work like psychologist,, etc. &#xD;
general family doctor working with abused women , working at a community clinic.&#xD;
I am not familiar with medical speciality, hope to inspire you to research more on specific.&#xD;
Good luck.</summary>
    <dc:creator>dreamer</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-07-07T06:38:35Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>career advice</title>
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    <author>
      <name>mashal</name>
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    <updated>2009-06-18T11:43:01Z</updated>
    <published>2009-06-18T11:43:01Z</published>
    <summary type="html">hey ppl,&#xD;
i need some advice&#xD;
im a fourth year med school student (put in med school against wishes).......&#xD;
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i considered dropping out of med school at one point but then i thought ,might aswell stick to it till the end of the  course.&#xD;
now that graduation is only a year away i really need to decide on what i need to do after this....&#xD;
i need to know if theres some way i can blend my traits as an ENFp with a medical speciality...&#xD;
or even get  into something which is related to medicine&gt;&#xD;
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id really appreciate ur help</summary>
    <dc:creator>mashal</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-06-18T11:43:01Z</dc:date>
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