I love Barack Obama. Do you guys like him too? I think he is really authentic and real. He is a wonderful speaker also.
Do you think his personaltiy type is, its definately NF, I tought maybe ENFJ but an article online says ENFP/
WHat you you all think. An NF president would be the first!!!! How does the person writing the article know their MBTI. Did they find them from high school or something?
Heres and article,,,
www.slate.com/id/2184696/pagenum/all/
Hillary ESTJ
McCain ESTP
Obama ENFP
I think
Hillary ESTJ
McCain ESTP... not sure
Obama ENFJ
If Barack reads this he can chime in too. We would like to know!!
Do you think his personaltiy type is, its definately NF, I tought maybe ENFJ but an article online says ENFP/
WHat you you all think. An NF president would be the first!!!! How does the person writing the article know their MBTI. Did they find them from high school or something?
Heres and article,,,
www.slate.com/id/2184696/pagenum/all/
Hillary ESTJ
McCain ESTP
Obama ENFP
I think
Hillary ESTJ
McCain ESTP... not sure
Obama ENFJ
If Barack reads this he can chime in too. We would like to know!!
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Thu, March 13, 2008 - 5:48 PMPersonally, I dont, because I am an Indepent Conservative. I have seen lists with past presidents MBTI's. It makes sense, since it says we make good politicians....
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Fri, March 14, 2008 - 11:23 AMIMHO~~I think inspiration and motivation are Barack's forte rather than action or results. Nothing wrong with that--I just have high hopes for a more action-oriented candidate. Take a look at Barack's legislative record. He seems to have a hard time committing to one side of an issue. Typical behavior of an ENFP. I do think he is authentic. I personally don't think he's ready to lead our country. I'm terribly frightened that people are so desperate for change that they will fall for Obama blindly. If you support Obama, great! But make sure you do your research and have a very educated understanding of him. -
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Fri, March 14, 2008 - 3:08 PMDid you read the article.
I believe that he is most likely an ENFJ. He may be an ENFP. Whatever the case is, he has his act together, and is very dedicated and ambitious to his high level, he is a smart and powerful human being, more than worthy to be America's next president no matter what his MBTI is. That is my opinion.
I think that it would be a problem if people did not vote for him because they tought he was not ready, you have to be willing to trust and believe what he says. There will be very experienced people to put policys in place and pick up details, do the banking and such. He will hire and find those people I believe. But he is the ultimate international diplomat, compared to Hillary and Mc Cain. That is a winning point for me.
I find him to be extremely action oriented. Look at what he is doing...
I don't think people blindly support Obama because they so desperately want change. I think that people have reasons for deciding who they want, it's not all based on emotion.
my friend is voting for him-hes an INTJ
my brother-INFP
me-ENFP
my mom-shes and ISTJ
my dad-INTJ
my math professor- INTP
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 5:16 PMI saw an interview on CNN where there were 2 people being interviewed. Each person was there representing Hillary and Obama. One of the journalists asked the man representing Obama (I can't remember his name) to name one legislative change that he had created on his own. The man stuttered around and eventually admitted he couldn't name one. That is the kind of thing that worries me--when people close to Obama can't even come up with changes that he has successfully completed. Please don't take anything I have said harshly. I'm not an expert on politics by any stretch of the imagination. I just wanted to offer an opinion cause you asked. I know that sometimes it's easy to misconstrue what people are trying to say on the internet cause you have only these words I am writing to form my intent. I hope I haven't offended you in any way.
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 5:18 PMI'm sorry--no I didn't read the article. I misread what you said and thought he was an ENFP. My apologies. :) -
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Thu, March 20, 2008 - 6:08 AMWonton, Barack has a pretty decent legislative record, particularly when it comes to more transparency in government. That douchenozzle representing him doesn't count for shit. -
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Mon, April 7, 2008 - 1:26 PMMy 2.3cents:
Obama is an Improvisor (__SP). Particularily, I suspect that he is an _SFP. I won't say much now, but I will say for everyone that understanding this can give you an incredible insight about what an intuition preference vs. a sensing preference actually looks like.
When Obama does use intuition (ie, when he talks about change and reconciliation in vague terms) it stikes me as a kind of fairly undifferentiated intuition being employed by someone who prefers extraverted sensing. I liken it to how _S_P rock musicians often write symbolic and cryptic lyrics where even the musician doesn't quite know what it means but all they know is that certian lyrics really capture the audience. This is how I percieve Obama's speaches.
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Thu, April 10, 2008 - 9:40 PMI'm a conservative Republican, and an ENFP.
I'm 99.9999999999999% certain that an NF has NEVER been elected President of the United States.
For President of the United States, you have to think executive, not politician. Politician IS listed as a possible career for ENFP's, but I think that applies more to the legislative branch, not the executive. Hence, Barack was a State Senator and is currently a U.S. Senator. Senators have ideas and they write bills and they talk to people and they authorize things, but they don't do anything. Legislators are in the realm of ideas - they debate ideas. They are not accountable for making things happen; they are not responsible for execution. The president is the one who makes things happen and gets things done. The White House is where the buck stops. As an ENFP, that doesn't play to Barack's strengths. Maybe he is "hope we can believe in", but the question is can he deliver? His personality type is not the deliverer.
According to a study by Keirsey and Choiniere looking at Presidents Washington through Bush 41, there were 20 SJ's, 12 SP's, and 8 NT's. (Clinton was an SP, so that make them 13). There have been ZERO NF's. There's probably a good reason for this.
But yeah, we've never had an ENFP as president, and if I was a betting man, I'm betting that trend will continue. What is the catalyst for an ENFP to be elected? "Change" doesn't count because of term limits - the incumbent isn't running, so it will be a change no matter who is elected. With a 200+ track record of non-ENFP presidents, my money is on McCain or Clinton. -
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Mon, April 14, 2008 - 5:14 PMGood comic timing josh!
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Mon, April 14, 2008 - 5:22 PMYou know how, its actually hard to predict personality types, epically a politicians because they are like chameleons. I think Barack Obama is pretty integrated, he seems to know the right things to say all the time. He may be an ENTP on adderall...lol
My friend is an ENTP and she loves politics,,,(that is what I am basing my comparison off of)
But who the hell cares, he says the stuff that, I wish people would say, in politics. That's what I like about him. His style, is very real, and new.
I'm tired of reading smoke signals, and I don't like idioms.
He is a writer too, seems like an intuitive trait and we all know N's rule! Admit it... :)
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Mon, April 14, 2008 - 5:40 PMThe Clintions are really good at sabatoging the party aka...putting Repubilicans in the White House.
If Bill had not have almost been impeached over his sexually addiction issues made public, then Al Gore would have slid on though to win the election, over Bush.
Now Hillary is beating up and sabotaged Obama, for the republicans, if she contiunes to do so, once again, people will not trust him feel disgusted and Mc Cain will win.
Thanks Clintons, they are kind of overachievers to a fault. Don't ruin it for the future... ya know.
But then again, I smoke crack! And everything I say here is a lie!!! lol
But Ironically I will vote Hil,over Mc Cain, because I don't think Mc Cain is as competent to be our president, although his tax cuts would be nice, its a nice thought if you want to be politically correct.
Ron Paul is the liberaterian that i think is pretty cool. both him and obama were against the war. -
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 10:50 PMNO NO NO. you all need to brush up on studying you personality theory.
Barack Obama is INTJ. maybe an INTP. He is an NT. do you think an NF can handle all that criticism? cmon now.
Hillary Clinton is an INTJ too. BOTH ARE NTs. that's why they are both calm in the face of criticism and both believe that they can do it.
BILL Clinton is the artisan - SP.
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 10:51 PMthat person who said that barack was an idealist and hillary a supervisor is an idiot. she needs to brush up on her personality theory. -
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 7:19 AMOuch! Just a little harsh.........
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Sun, April 27, 2008 - 6:01 PMYes, THAT article was incredibly idiotic. I can't wait until one of the real experts guesses Obama's type.
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Sun, April 27, 2008 - 6:12 PM""NO NO NO. you all need to brush up on studying you personality theory.
Barack Obama is INTJ. maybe an INTP. He is an NT. do you think an NF can handle all that criticism? cmon now.
Hillary Clinton is an INTJ too. BOTH ARE NTs. that's why they are both calm in the face of criticism and both believe that they can do it.
BILL Clinton is the artisan - SP.
NO NFs in the race. it's too difficult for us personally.""
Any type can handle criticism. Please. You think Micheal Moore (ENFP!!) believes that everybody likes him or something? . Eleanor Roosevelt was also HATED by many during her time. Kucinich (INFP?) campaigns every election year. Cmon, man. I think YOU need to brush up on your personality theory.
By the way, the reason Al Gore (probably ENTP) started avoiding the press was because they kept twisting his words and running nasty stories. Then Kerry (probably INTP) never fully responded to the 'flip-flopping' and swift-boat crap. That's two theorists who were clueless about how to deal with a hostile press. Add Hillary as 3 if she loses the primary.
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Mon, April 28, 2008 - 6:42 PMI'm also a pretty conservative Republican (most of the time) and have strong libertarian and constitutionalist tendencies. I’m not sure of Obama’s type either, but I would think that if he was an ENFP, then he’d be telling us more specifics of his ideas for change (not just saying we need change). The reason I say this is that as an ENFP I know that when I have an idea for how to solve some problem (in a way that benefits the most people – the idealist way) I cannot contain myself. I must tell people the idea, the mechanism for it to work, and evangelize it amongst people who can implement the idea. ENFP’s need J’s to execute (mostly NTJ’s for the “how to” of the idea).
I personally think that an ENFP with a weak P preference (who can mode to the J) and a weak F preference who can mode to the T when necessary, could be president. (this will sound over the top but) I have often thought I could be president one day, and am investigating joining the state legislature in the near future as the beginning of the path. (ok enough over the top)
I also don’t like our choices much. McCain was not my choice for the Republican party. He’s hardly a Republican in the “Jeffersonian” sense. He doesn’t push for smaller government or protection of first amendment rights, or our national sovereignty. Hillary scares me because I cannot trust someone who would stay with her husband when he violated their trust. That to me speaks to her integrity and her sense of sticking up for herself. If she won’t hold her husband to a standard and hold him to honor his agreements can she hold another country to their treaty? If they violated it would she stick up for us? Obama seems to be a very eloquent speaker who has not yet said what he would change in his many speeches on change and his track record (like the others) is not for smaller government and more personal liberties.
Personally I am a Ron Paul supporter and I believe he is an NF (idealist) though he may be an NFJ. And I may be wrong, he may be an NT but he certainly seems to connect the dots well and genuinely seems to stick to principals like an idealist. (also he’s out of the race… hmm)… crap.
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 3:57 PMIm voting for Barack Obama! Im registered independent, McCain, and Bush.... suck.
I think it would be a bigger risk to elect McCain than Obama, I think Obama is smarter and less set in his ways than McCain. We need new policies, and progressive change in government.Also, I think that Obama will mobilize and energize African American's and give them hope, that will help our economy if he can energize mobilize people to work even harder and become more independent for american blacks!
This is a melting pot, the country is changing, McCain doesn't represent change, it would be sad to see people vote for someone they dont like because they are afraid of the unknown, and possibilities. -
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 4:06 PMAnd, I also want to say, he can energize young and people in general not just blacks, but anyone who wants to improve their country and contribute to something higher, and to the social good. Its not just about money and war, its about people feeling connected, and uplifted and organized, in order to work for a common good for everyone, and themselves. Not just for their OWN INDIVIDUAL GAIN. What if everyone was selfish, and isolationist, or did not like other people who werent like them... people will get used to people who are not like them, we can all work together to make things work, we dont need to hate eachother and feel bad. I don't understand why we all cant accept eachother and accept eachothers differences and COMPRIMISE! This seems like such an obvious solution to me!?
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 9:25 AMI'm not saying anything either way, but here's some more food for thought. This is from a post I found on the net.
OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES
Audacity of Hypocrisy ^| 4/3/08
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:10:03 PM by freespirited
1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’(from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Thu, June 12, 2008 - 1:09 AMWonton,
I don't think posting an internet mass mailing., lie list, about Obama is going to enlighten anyone or change the way anyone thinks, if it does, then they can believe whatever they want to.
You are saying something when you put up fictitious garbage made up by anti Obama people.
If you soak anything in vinegar long enough, it eventually becomes a pickle...including people's brains, its called brain washing.
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Thu, June 12, 2008 - 6:13 AMChristine~
I'm out of this discussion. I posted that in hopes that I could hear what people thought of it. Maybe help me weigh out those issues. It's part of the learning process. I could never be the fool who just sits and laps up everything any politician says like a thoughtless dog. So I try to take everything into consideration. So sorry I asked for an objective look at someone who may or may not be leading our country.
Your accusations about brainwashing make for an extremely weak argument. I guess I was trying to brainwash the whole ENFP crowd, if by brainwash you mean learn, grow and promote understanding.
Ya know, some could argue that you carrying on about how much you love Obama shouldn't even belong in this forum~ If you want to get mean and critical about it.
I'm out.
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Re: Barack Obama ENFP?
Thu, June 12, 2008 - 3:04 PMI just can't believe that you are posting stuff you found on a blog.
The list you posted is MADE UP, its mascarading as learning material, when it is not, what is to be debated about remours found on the net? what is the evidence that they are objective facts? Just even bringing up this stuff is bogus, if only to debunk it point by point.
For example 12% of people still believe that Obama is Muslim, which he is not.
propaganda.
I'm just disappointed that you would COPY, that information and want people to talk about it, it is not very valuable information in my opinion.
You have no facts to back up that it is true.
people should vote for who they want, but dont believe stupid stuff you read on the net. including this page, I guess now!
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"CHECK THE WEBSITE AND MOVE ON"
Thu, June 12, 2008 - 11:44 PMJUNE 12th 08
"The Obama campaign's launching a new rapid-response website designed to truthsquad all those (Larry Johnson-generated) Internet rumors about the Obama family. It's called FightThe Smears.com.
The site represents a shift in tactics for Chicago. In the past, the campaign refused to talk about the "smears" because they didn't want to give them credibility.
Now they've surrendered to the reality that silence often perpetuates the rumors. By consigning the smears to a website, the Obama campaign gives itself a nifty way to respond to these things. When asked, Obama can simply say, "Check the website" and move on.
Smears/truths addressed so far include the Michelle Obama/hatey whitey rumor, the Barack's a Muslim rumor, and the Barack-won't-say-the-pledge of allegiance rumor."
TRY THIS...
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Re: "CHECK THE WEBSITE AND MOVE ON"
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 9:36 AMFolks, I think that bringing politics in here was a bad idea, kinda like bringing it up at Thanksgiving dinner.
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Re: "CHECK THE WEBSITE AND MOVE ON"
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 10:10 AMSpark-a-licious~
I COMPLETELY agree with you now. Very wise.
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Re: "CHECK THE WEBSITE AND MOVE ON"
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 10:12 AMAnd I want to apologize to the group for clogging the boards with this crap. Never again.
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